PART 2: Some Beneficial Points Extracted Ahmad Baazmool’s Criticism Against Shiakh Saalim At-Taweel
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In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy. All praise is due to Allaah The Lord of
mankind, Jinn and the entire
existence. And may the salaah and salaam be upon our noble Messenger
Muhammad, his family and his companions. To proceed:
Shaikh Ahmad Baazmool (may Allaah preserve him) stated:
Indeed, I was asked whether one can benefit from Shaikh Saalim Taweel’s (knowledge, lectures etc.), so I answered in the negative because he has a number of Mukhaalafaat Manhajiyyah [i.e. a number of affairs in opposition to the salafi call- those affairs of Methodology that draws a clear distinction between the Salafi methodology and the falsehood of the
parties and sects.] And
indeed Shaikh Saalim At-Taweel has been advised concerning these affairs but he
has not recanted from them; rather he reviled and disparaged his Salafi
brothers. And in my answer to the one who asked me about
benefitting from Shaikh Saalim At-Taweel, I warned against six of his
Mukhaalafaat (i.e. affairs in opposition to the Salafi methodology); but I did not declare him
an innovator. Therefore,
how can I advise a person to listen to Shaikh Saalim At-Taweel when it is the
case that he establishes false principles, announces such principles and call
to them in his lessons and speeches, and teaches them to his students?!
And after speech about his Mukhaalafaat (i.e. affairs in opposition to the Salafi methodology) were made known on sahab.net and other salafi websites, his students (may Allaah guide me and them towards correctness) sent many communications in which they defended Shaikh Saalim and blamed me for uttering those words against him. So I replied to them saying that I did not declare Shaikh Saalim an innovator, but I clarified his Mukhaalafaat (i.e. affairs in opposition to the salafi methodology) for the seeker/s of the truth. They told me that Shaikh Saalim refutes Ihyaa Turaath; so I clarified Shaikh Saalim’s stance towards Ihyaa Turaath and that he has a mere criticism against them in which is not found a declaration that they are innovators; rather Shaikh Saalim intermingles with some of the men of Ihyaa Turaath and praises them. So the students of Shaikh Saalim said that he is mistaken.
So I said to them: So you are in agreement with me in this affair, but is this the only mistake of Shaikh Saalim or does he have other mistakes that in contradiction to the methodology of the Salafus Saalih (the pious predecessors); and is it permissible for a me as a student of knowledge who knows the salafi methodology to advise people to listen and benefit from the likes of this man (i.e. Shaikh Saalim)? So the students began defending him again and that they study under him, and that he is a salafi. So I said to them that this praise of theirs for him is an approval of his dangerous mistakes about which he has been given advice; and that this stance of theirs towards a person who has opposed the Salafi methodology and has been advised but he refuses to make a recantation–is this stance of theirs the Salafi methodology they have adopted from Shaikh Saalim At-Taweel and whether they exalt the creation and not the Sunnah and the truth, and whether this is the end result of the
foundations of Shaikh Saalim’s lessons?!’’ [End of abridged
Shaikh Ahmad Baazmool continued with a general address to everyone, saying:
My brothers: Our major scholars, such as the likes of Shaikh Ahmad An-Najmi (rahimahullaah), Shaikh Rabee Bin Haadee Al-Madkhali, Shaikh Ubaid Bin Abdillaah Al-Jaabiriy and Shaikh Zaid Al-Madkhali (may Allaah preserve them)—they always instruct us saying, ”Do not have a bigoted allegiance towards us”; and these scholars teach us that returning to the truth is the good thing a person should do, rather than persisting in falsehood. And the Imaams who came before these scholars (i.e. Shaikh Rabee, Shaikh Ahmad An-Najmi, Shaikh Ubaid and others) did not use to give precedence to anything over the truth, rather they used to say: ”If our speech opposes the hadeeth of the Messenger of Allaah (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam), then fling our speech on the wall;” and they have noble stances in speech and action with regards to this. May Allaah reward them. [End of abridged paraphrase]
A Grave Mistake of Shaikh Saalim At-Taweel [Note: This title is the compiler's]
Shaikh Ahmad Baazmool (may Allaah preserve him) stated that Shaikh Saalim likens the Salafis to the takfeeris, and he said that just as the Takfeeris say, ‘’Jihaad, Jihaad, Jihaad! the Salafis (also) say: Sunnah, Sunnah, Sunnah!! This similitude Shaikh Saalim made is a betrayal of the Salafis and it is not a statement in aid of the truth; rather is it permissible in the first place to liken the people of truth to the people of falsehood, and are the Salafis to be blamed for exalting the Sunnah?! [End of abridged paraphrase]
Reader: Visit these links in which are found information about who the Takfeeris are as opposed to the call of the Salafis. And after reading what is contained in these links you will come to know the reason why Shaikh Ahmad Baazmool strongly criticises Shaikh Saalim for likening the Salafis to the Takfeeris. [1:Who are the Takfeeris? http://www.takfiris.com/takfir/] [2:What Is Salafiyyah? http://al-athariyyah.com/salafiyyah/what_is.html http://al-athariyyah.com/salafiyyah/principles_salafiyyah.html]
Shaikh Ahmad Baazmool continued…..
Shaikh Saalim says that there is no reward in repeating speech about Abdur Rahmaan Abdul Khaaliq the innovator, when it is the case that the Imaams of the Sunnah have plenty of statements against the people of innovation and we find the Imaams of the Sunnah from different places refuting one person. Therefore, what is the problem with Shaikh Saalim At-Taweel that he objects to repeated speech against Abdur Rahmaan Abdul Khaaliq–an innovator and enemy of the Salafi Methodology!? And even though Shaikh Saalim At-Taweel objects to speech being repeated against the misguided innovator Abdur-Rahmaan Abdul Khaaliq and says that there is no reward in doing so; however Shaikh Saalim speaks against Shaikh Muhammad Al-Anjari who is well known to be from the Mashaayikh of Kuwait. Shaikh Saalim said that Shaikh Muhammad Al-Anjari has not done anything and that refutations do not increase Eemaan.
Therefore, Shaikh Saalim does not see a benefit in repeating speech against the innovator Abdur Rahmaan Abdul Khaaliq, but what about speaking against the well-known Kuwaiti Salafi Shaikh Muhammad Al-Anjari? Indeed, this behaviour of Shaikh Saalim cannot be considered a defence of the truth and its people; rather he praises some of the men who affiliate themselves with the deviant organisation Ihyaa Turaath and this itself is a betrayal of the truth and its people. And look at the softness Shaikh Saalim employed when speaking about those men of Ihyaa Turaath and how he spoke against Shaikh Anjari who is a well-known salafi Shaikh in Kuwait?! This behaviour of Shaikh Saalim is a watering down of the truth and a means leading the Salafi Manhaj to be lost.
Reader: Visit the links to see who Shaikh Anjari is and who Abdur-Rahmaan Abdul Khaaliq the innovator is. [1:Who is Shaikh Muhammad Al-Anjari: http://salaficentre.com/2012/09/studying-with-ahmad-as-subayee-and-muhammad-al-anjaree-in-kuwait-i-shaikh-rabee/] [2: Who is Abdur-Rahmaan Abdul Khaaliq the Innovator? http://www.salafipublications.com/sps/sp.cfm?secID=NDV&subsecID=NDV09&loadpage=displaysubsection.cfm] [ http://salaficentre.com/2012/07/get-out-of-my-house-abdur-rahman-abdul-khaaliq-shaikh-muhammad-al-bannah/]
Shaikh Ahmad continued….
Likewise, another mistake of Shaikh Saalim At-Taweel is his view that a lot of refutations against the deviant organization Ihyaa Turaath hardens the heart of a person. [End of abridged paraphrase] Reader: visit this link and find out what Shaikh Saaleh Al-Fawzaan has to say about refutations. [http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=11&Topic=5836]
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